Frienship /amitie -- A social necessity
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Par PEGASOS : le 19/02/11 à 10:28:58
| Dire merci | Bonjour a tous, some of you know me already, most of you don't. So just for reference of all, I am PhD student in Toulouse and as you might have guessed, I don't speak good enough french (my fault totally, and I accept it. My apologies for this to all). What makes me write this post is quite unusual, specially for me. But as they say that "desperate times demand desperate measures", I don't have any other choice. This forum is the only place I know. We are called social animals as human beings, and the very reason for this is that we can't survive in isolation, specially when you are going through difficult period of your life. we need moral support and courage, we need a shoulder to cry, we need someone to talk to. In short, we all need friends. So, thats the purpose of this post. I have lost my only friend in harsh realities of life, somehow I had to leave my only friend! life without that friend is nothing short of hell. In my efforts to survive and fight this crisis, I am writing this post to see if there are people in Toulouse which I can see sometime, to whom I can talk or go out once in a while. I don't feel comfortable talking about myself but all I can say is I am easy going person so will not be a trouble for most of you. I don't own a horse but I know a little bit horse riding thanks to someone on this forum, who taught me. I like photography and so I can take pictures of your horses etc, for free off course. sorry for a long post but you can guess how miserable I am that I had to do all this. I wish you all the very best and pray that you never lose your friends. Friends are like good health, you only realize its importance once you lose it. so please take good care of your friends! (disclaimer: if someone thinks my post should not be here, please let me know and I will delete it) |
Par PEGASOS : le 20/03/11 à 23:15:00
| Dire merci | hmm, just a thought: when we are sorrowful, and we look again in our heart deeper, we shall see that in truth we are weeping for that which has been our delight! |
Par ciriolla : le 20/03/11 à 23:20:57
| Dire merci | It's wonderful what you write .... |
Par laska : le 20/03/11 à 23:38:50
| Dire merci | You're right once again Peg! |
Par PEGASOS : le 20/03/11 à 23:39:12
| Dire merci | merci bcp... it is said that when your feelings are true, words speak themselves. perhaps that may be the case. |
Par PEGASOS : le 20/03/11 à 23:40:02
| Dire merci | merci laska and hi, how have u been, and how is ur study going? any progress on manuscripts? |
Par laska : le 20/03/11 à 23:43:56
| Dire merci | Hi, I'm fin thank you! And you? My researches are on their way. I had a speech last friday, it was quite difficult for me but I think quite interesting too. I had numerise several manuscripts. Almost the quarter maybe... And your researches? I hope you'll have a good week. And once again, I'm admirative of your life's philosophy  |
Par PEGASOS : le 21/03/11 à 08:15:36
| Dire merci | good for your work. bon courage. je suis bien, merci  Je suis en attente de votre travail à la fin pour que je puisse apprendre l'histoire authentique  |
Par nath34 : le 21/03/11 à 11:02:06
| Dire merci | a little kiss there !!! No, two kisses, one for each one ! |
Par aline13 : le 21/03/11 à 11:22:56
  Déconnecté | all like nath |
Par PEGASOS : le 21/03/11 à 12:32:37
| Dire merci | merci |
Par laska : le 21/03/11 à 22:29:16
| Dire merci | Arf, as you know, I think there is no authentic history. History is a subjective matter. There are many ways to interpretate it, and these ways depend on your culture, your values, you humanity also. And that's why it's so important to compare the different visions, as we did last time we saw each other. I realized that you vision was different from mine, and over all complementary. So I'd like to learn you way of thinking so that I could develop my own vision of History regarding each interpretation of facts. The book I advise you is "A brief history of religion" by Frederic Lenoir. |
Par PEGASOS : le 21/03/11 à 23:57:16
| Dire merci | Yes you are right about interpretation of history but i was meaning that you will do research on the events which will include facts and hence one can judge things in a better perspective. thanks for the book too, i will find it on amazon i guess and try to get it. for the discussion part we can both benefit from each other . |
Par nath34 : le 22/03/11 à 10:00:31
| Dire merci | What's love is ? It's very hard to answer...many different meanings and difficult to articulate, even between people from the same country or religion or similar in all points... Have a good day Pegasos |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 10:28:52
| Dire merci | that is very true nath, love is a complex thing to define, in all human history we have millions of philosophers and writers who tried to define love but still no one has perfect definition of love, that's how complex it is! Moreover, love is something linked with feelings and emotions and it's always hard to put your feelings into words. Words sometime simply fail to express our feelings, no matter how good writer we are! So the problem arises for many people that how can they be sure if they love someone or not? For me, one simple way is to see if I can sacrifice everything i have for someone or not! do I value someone more than everything else or not (including my own-self). and if the answer is yes, chances are more that it is love... |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 10:29:58
| Dire merci | and have a nice day too nath, bonne journee! |
Par nath34 : le 22/03/11 à 12:10:03
| Dire merci | Sometimes we think we do not love. But when the person is far away or go far, suddenly you feel lost, you have lost something very important in you; You cry, you do not know why and your life seems without interest...In this case, you love the other but you didn't know before... |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 12:25:20
| Dire merci | yes nath, thats what i was saying too yesterday: "It has always been that love knows not its own depth until the hour of separation!" sometime we don't know the value or importance of something because we take it for granted, but when we lose it, then we realize what we have missed! |
Par Roro : le 22/03/11 à 12:40:00
| Déconnecté Dire merci | well, Pegasos, that is sad to have to loose it to see that it was important. I have been looking at your post since the beginning, and have never said anything, just read it and following page after page. the thing about love is that everything is love, including ourselves, the first person to love and to accept as it, without need of changing one bit, is "ME", and that love (not over consciously) should bring love to other and attracts also other into the mist of that love. Smile is part of that love, too many people have a sad face these days, angry, selfish, inside and suffering. Love, smile and openess is what make THE DAY as joyfull as possible, every minutes, no matter who is in it with you, you will always first be with yourself. How do you pass through the loss of something, somebody ? but unless that person dies (even remains within you too) nothing is lost for certain, keep in touch, remain smiling and loving and even if it is not THIS person, an other will come attracted by your smile and the love you are willing to give. Love is giving mostly, not taking, even if the "answer" is not always what is expected. Love is just to be alive, positive and see further, but live the day by the minute. it is too late when we appreciate what we had and it is gone, too late. |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 13:13:49
| Dire merci | Hi, Roro. Thanks for your valuable insight and welcome to the topic. I do agree what you say about love that it is giving mostly, for me love is all about sacrificing and giving. I also admit that sad faces and crying people will not make others happy, and perhaps annoy them too. but I will not deny the fact that one can not smile always, one can not stay happy forever. joys and sorrows are integral part of our life and they go together: sometime we are happy and sometime we cry and feel sad. It is also true that in love, your everything should reflect your love, even your own-self. and I also believe that love does not end with possession. though our love will demand for the possession and we will try to do all what we can do for this but our love should not finish with possession. Even if we can not get possession of our love, the feelings and love stays there. but for me it is hard to see how I can share my love with someone else? even though someone will like to have it but I don't think I can change my love for someone "x" to my love for someone "y". |
Par Roro : le 22/03/11 à 13:40:45
| Déconnecté Dire merci | Pegasos you will, when time comes, fall in love again, but that will be different, event if it does not knock at the door, even if it to know yourself better. yes, you have to smile, smile is in the mind mostly, even in sad time, even in crises, tomorrow is an other day. smile makes it happen, smile and laugh are the best we can have and .... it is free. we do not smile enough, we do not take the time to admire what is simply around us, and smell the air, take a deep breath, and look around. being blind does not help at all, unless you master the other senses yes, you will love again, because that is the beauty of life. OK, let say I have a few years more than you, I have a longer "way" in life to look behind me, and a lot of people can come into your life, for a day, a smile, a talk, or a little bit longer, or even very longer. but every relationship, even for just a talk should be taken as if it would be the last, in full, smiling and avoiding "conflict" or pitty negative consideration. But a relationship lived on a minute-by-minute, step-by-step and day-by-day, with a constant work put into it, without looking for a reward for the effort, you will find yourself getting along very fine. meaningless details create war, dispute and stupid argument looking into the full picture and smiling in life and love will make these meaningless details just go away. so, what is life and love and smile and happiness if not just the image you create around you. and if you are smiling enough, you will attract other into it but also, I must say, those who need help and energy to get better or out of their own problem as well.and "bad time" makes you alive and appreciate "good time" and help you make these "good time" into "great time to remember" I have gone from Switzerland when I was 22 years old, to Canada, and then I left my best friends, my friends, my family, my life and much more to get there. It took me a while, a few more pounds (I would have avoided this as well) to figure out my "new life" and the facts, to find "friends", "boyfriends", life, love, smile and good/great/memorable time, made one year in Canada pour into four wonderful years there, very enjoyable time and great many news friends and experiences. I did it again in 1988 by leaving everybody in Canada to return to Switzerland. Ever since in Switzerland, I have made myself remember the time when it seems that I had lost everything by leaving one place to an other. But found a lot more after. and so it is life. |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 13:53:05
| Dire merci | Roro thanks once again for the guidance and enlightening us with your wisdom. Yes I do agree whatever you have said and I know with time it is possible that someone else will come to my life but as they say that when you are passing from a difficult time, every second seems like eternity. so I hope soon this eternity will come to an end and I will be able to see all this as the most beautiful memories of my life, the one I can cherish for rest of my life (if i can't get to live with my love!). so far she is the only girl in my life, and I think she will stay lonely deep in my heart for rest of my life too, though I know I will be able to continue my normal life and enjoy it like I was doing before I met her. But at the same time I also try my best to fight and find a way to keep her by my side for the rest of my life. No one knows if I will succeed or not but at least i will try my best. In any case I have no regrets! |
Par Roro : le 22/03/11 à 13:58:04
| Déconnecté Dire merci | if it means to be, go for it |
Par PEGASOS : le 22/03/11 à 14:08:21
| Dire merci | merci! |
Par PEGASOS : le 27/03/11 à 01:42:37
| Dire merci | A life with love may have thorns, but a life without love will not have any roses! |
Par aline13 : le 31/03/11 à 09:09:20
| Déconnecté | hey ! how are you ? Des bonnes nouvelles à nous annoncer ?  |
Par sheytana : le 31/03/11 à 09:23:17
| Dire merci | Non pas de nouvelles... |
Par aline13 : le 31/03/11 à 10:01:13
| Déconnecté |  |
Par PEGASOS : le 02/04/11 à 02:32:17
| Dire merci | Merci aline13, je suis bien. et J'espère que vous êtes bien aussi. bon courage sheyt, tous les soirs a un beau matin  |
Par sheytana : le 02/04/11 à 08:57:51
Par nath34 : le 04/04/11 à 13:05:46
| Dire merci | Juste un petit bonjour ici pour vous dire que je pense à vous and never forget... |
Par PEGASOS : le 04/04/11 à 13:57:07
| Dire merci | merci Nath je sais |
Par nath34 : le 14/04/11 à 12:25:51
| Dire merci | Et comment va mon Pegase en ce moment ? Ne le vois plus guère... And how is my Pegase now, I don't really see news from him ? Waaaa, My english is so evolutive...  |
Par sheytana : le 14/04/11 à 13:22:21
| Dire merci | Je crois que moins on le voit par ici, mieux ça va en fait |
Par PEGASOS : le 14/04/11 à 13:27:46
| Dire merci | Bonjour Nath, merci beaucoup pour vos prévenance je suis mieux. |
Par PEGASOS : le 14/04/11 à 13:28:23
| Dire merci | pour vos Anglais |
Par PEGASOS : le 16/05/11 à 20:29:03
| Dire merci | “L'amour est comme un sablier, avec le cœur remplir le vide du cerveau” Jules Renard (1864-1910) |
Par Gracioso : le 16/05/11 à 20:59:03
Par sheytana : le 16/05/11 à 21:58:09
| Dire merci | Peg> Heureusement que ton cœur est bien remplis alors  |
Par PEGASOS : le 16/05/11 à 22:40:23
| Dire merci | lol sheyt, J'ai deux sablier, sur un coeur est plein et sur l'autres cerveau est plein. |
Par sheytana : le 16/05/11 à 23:08:42
| Dire merci | Mais oui mais oui mon chéri |
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